NI abortion law amendment fails

Published Tuesday, 12 March 2013
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An amendment to the Criminal Justice Bill, which would have made it illegal for abortions to be provided by private clinics in Northern Ireland, has failed to secure a cross party majority at Stormont.

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The proposal, which was put forward jointly by the DUP and SDLP, fell as expected following a vote on Tuesday.

It was backed by 53 elected members, including 44 unionists and nine nationalists, however it was defeated on a cross-community basis with 40 votes against.

Ahead of the debate in the Assembly chamber, Speaker Willie Hay warned all parties that the issue was a deeply sensitive and emotive one which required moderate language.

But proceedings still became heated throughout what was a lively and lengthy discussion on the proposed criminalisation of abortions in NI outside of the NHS - while outside a petition was delivered to Stormont by anti-abortion campaigners.

The DUP accused Sinn Féin of being ideologically and morally bankrupt, with Sinn Féin countering that those bringing the amendment should be ashamed of themselves.

Lagan Valley DUP MLA Paul Givan, who proposed the amendment alongside Alban Maginness of the SDLP, held that there was significant support for those seeking to oppose abortion.

"Across the island of Ireland, we have a common bond in seeking to provide the best care for our mothers and unborn babies," he said.

"The NHS is where vulnerable women and their unborn babies should be treated, not a private clinic making financial gain. It ensures that in terrible life-threatening circumstances the best care is provided - free."

If this is the backwoods, I'm glad we're in it.

Edwin Poots, DUP

SDLP MLA Patsy McGlone also stated that the amendment "reflects the widespread support for the strict regulation of abortion both here in the north and indeed across the island of Ireland".

He added: "The pro-abortion lobby are keen to push the boundaries of the law on this issue."

But Sinn Féin's Caitríona Ruane claimed that it shouldn't matter where a termination took place, as long as it was carried out within the law as it stands.

She insisted that her party was not in favour of abortion, but supported terminations being made available in cases of rape, incest or threat to the life of the pregnant woman.

"In Sinn Féin's view, in an ideal world, all aspects of health would be dealt with in the National Health Service," Ms Ruane said.

"The reality, of course, is that the National Health Service is currently heavily dependent on private health referrals, from the NHS to private clinics."

She further added that the amendment was simply an attempt to shut down the Marie Stopes sexual health clinic in Belfast by the back door.

Are we to wait for another tragedy before those who brought this amendment forward will cease to play with the lives of women?

Caitríona Ruane, Sinn Féin

Many side issues were raised throughout the debate - including whether it was for a male-dominated Assembly to rule on an issue affecting women and what implications any changes to the law would have in terms of emergency cases where the NHS could not provide support.

Concerns were also raised over differing views on when life begins - amid questions over the impact on some forms of contraception if life was taken to mean from the moment of conception and the current legislation was changed.

Alliance Party leader and Justice Minister David Ford told those gathered in the chamber that he was concerned that members of the public may have believed that the debate was one of pro-abortion versus pro-life or pro-choice.

"It is not. It is about a very technical issue of the law," he said.

Mr Ford raised concerns about cases, however infrequent, where the wording of the amendment could cause problems - for instance, if a woman was referred by the NHS to a private clinic, but later suffered complications which meant a termination was essential and for which she would therefore need to be transferred back to an NHS hospital to avoid breaking the letter of the law.

This is not a pro-abortion versus pro-life debate.

David Ford, Alliance

But the Alliance Party's South Belfast MLA Anna Lo and the Green Party's Steven Agnew both came under fire from the DUP for siding with Sinn Féin in signing the petition of concern against the proposed amendment.

"I am pro-choice," Ms Lo said, in response to criticism.

"I believe women have the right to decide what to do with their bodies. It's not for men in this House to tell them what to do."

Ms Lo added that those claiming the Marie Stopes clinic was trying to sneak abortion into Northern Ireland through the back door were doing the same thing when it came to the amendment.

"Without public consultation, you are sneaking this amendment in through the back door," she said.

Abortion is currently illegal in Northern Ireland except in extreme cases where there is said to be severe risk to the life or mental health of the pregnant woman.

Around 1,500 women from Northern Ireland are said to have travelled to England for a surgical abortion in recent years. Abortion pills have also been accessed online, without medical supervision.

Marie Stopes, a registered charity, provides a range of services in its clinics - from scans to STI testing and contraceptive advice. It also offers medical, non-surgical abortions carried out before the ninth week of pregnancy.

You talk about democracy. Is it democracy to ask women to carry out a pregnancy that was the result of rape?

Anna Lo, Alliance

But members of the DUP and SDLP moved to discredit the organisation, insisting that it was unregulated and seeking to exploit a gap in the law.

Health Minister Edwin Poots, speaking only in his capacity as a DUP MLA for Lagan Valley, asked: "Was there a gap in the market where the health service wasn't meeting the needs of women before Marie Stopes came to Northern Ireland?"

He further added that the lack of regulation for Marie Stopes meant that "nobody knows if the law is being breached because Marie Stopes is operating under a cloak of darkness".

UUP MLA Tom Elliott expressed concern that "while we're stopping this amendment going forward, we're actually allowing and permitting abortions to take place without any regulation".

But Green Party leader Steven Agnew held that the amendment would only restrict choice for women without considering their individuals cases and needs.

"I cannot claim to speak for the majority of women," he said.

"So I seek to afford them choice. This amendment restricts their choice. It doesn't not seek to regulate, it seeks to ban and it is aimed only at one provider (Marie Stopes)."

As a petition of concern has been raised on the issue of changing the law - signed by Sinn Féin, the Alliance Party and the Green Party - cross-party consensus is needed for the amendment to be passed by the Assembly.

TUV leader Jim Allister accused those backing the petition of concern of manipulation and added: "The one thing that is being aborted today in this house is democracy."

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69 Comments
doire abu in doire wrote (64 days ago):
Yes communicates, it does apply to you. It applies to everybody and I will pray for you
Tommy Atkins in London,England wrote (64 days ago):
Why all the discussion and debate about right to life and Pro choice when the are so many simpler, proactive remedies. Remember we as humans are supposed to be more knowledgeable and in control of ourselves than our animal kingdom. Grandmothers advice of zippered pants and closed legs, are still the number one protection against unwanted pregnancies and diseases
Excellent_Idea in Manchester wrote (65 days ago):
People become emotive over "rights" but what about responsibilities? Decency and self respect should prevent people from indulging in causal sex. Not only are we talking about the possibility of being impregnated but also courting the risk of catching an STI. Another point about womens' rights that we hear about is the fact that they wouldn't exist if they had been aborted. Think logically about that......if people decided on your rights before you were born, you wouldn't be here making these choices for other people; denying their rights. The liberal agenda appears to lack empathy and intelligence
angela in belfast wrote (65 days ago):
putting aside the unborn babies right to life for a moment, let me ask you this. what about the woman's right to her life? what about her having the right to make decisions regarding her own body? are we saying she shouldn't be allowed to make her own decisions? that strangers can tell her what she can and cannot do. i am pro choice which means exactly that, it does NOT mean pro abortion.pro life though should mean pro life as in protecting women's lives, they are no less important and its time a lot of people realized this.
Gerard in Belfast wrote (65 days ago):
Why are Sinn Fein being castigated when they have said they are anti-abortion? Because they have stated that a private clinic can complete terminations if they meet the same criteria regarding abortions as the NHS?? I am against abortions except in specific circumstances i.e. risk of death. How do you know that the NHS has not or is not availing of private clinics for terminations? After all they are so dependent on these private clinics for a hell of a lot of other services to reduce their waiting lists!
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