UVF meets PUP for crunch talks

Published Thursday, 14 October 2010
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The next leader of the Progressive Unionist Party - the brother of the late David Ervine - says he won't be "a mouthpiece for gangsters and gunmen".

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Brian Ervine is widely expected to replace John Kyle when the crisis-hit PUP elects its new leader at the weekend.

Crunch talks between the leader of the UVF and Mr Ervine were held on Thursday evening to establish the way forward prior to the party's annual conference.

Broadly regarded as being politically linked to both the UVF and Red Hand Commando, the party has been left in turmoil since the loyalist murder of Bobby Moffett on the Shankill Road in May.

The killing, branded by police as a UVF-linked "public execution", prompted then leader Dawn Purvis to quit the party.

Mr Ervine has already put his cards on the table in the meeting with the UVF's most senior leader.

"I think that they got it very, very wrong and what happened on the Shankill was despicable and is to be condemned and I condemn it wholeheartedly," Mr Ervine told UTV, just 48 hours before he is expected to take up the reins of the PUP.

"What it has done is that the progressive element within those organisations have had to reassess and had to prioritise and also have had to set mechanisms in place to guarantee and ensure that what happened on the Shankill will never happen again."

The Independent Monitoring Commission, which is also meeting in Belfast this week ahead of its next report into paramilitary activity in Northern Ireland, has warned the terror group that the Moffett murder must be the last.

John Grieve - a member of the paramilitary watchdog - told UTV: "It would be disastrous for them to do anything remotely resembling this again.

"And that should be made very plain to them - not just by us, but by all politicians, all members of the community. This is not the way to go on."

Last month, the IMC found that the murder of Bobby Moffett was sanctioned by the UVF leadership but the watchdog did not recommend that the murder constitutes a breach of their ceasefire.

In May 2007, the UVF issued what was supposed to be its 'end game' statement, followed last year by decommissioning.

It came after a UTV interview in 2006, in which a masked UVF man said: "The Ulster Volunteer force were the first organisation on the stage, to use your term. If in the future at any time leaving the stage we will be the final organisation to do that."

Mr Ervine is convinced there is still worth in trying to lead the UVF along a non-violent path.

"I believe that those progressive people who have risked their lives over the past ten years in order to bring peace to our streets and have been very successful in doing so, those people are really desirous and really eager to try and stamp out this type of thing in the future," he told UTV.

But Dawn Purvis believes she quit the PUP at the right time and, although wishing Mr Ervine and the party well, the new Independent Unionist representative added: "I think there is some naivety there in terms of what they are trying to do and I think it's a bit ironic, and the irony has certainly not been lost on me, that Brian Ervine's politics do not closely align with the values and principles of the PUP."

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Cynical in belfast wrote (583 days ago):
You're right ernie, PUP is really quite a lot different from Sinn Fein.... Sinn Fein have a much bigger mandate from the people... SF 162758 votes (23.5%) 24 seats in the Assembly, PUP 8032 votes (1.2%) 1 seat..... Oops i.e 0 Seats.... sorry, Dawns done a runner....... Ah well, I suppose that's democracy for you.....
Survivor of loyalist murder attempt in belfast wrote (583 days ago):
Ulster Loyalist....How does your description of loyalist murders i.e. "If loyalist attacks (mostly actually retaliatory)" fit in with your earlier claim "I have never attempted to justify anything"....
Ulster Loyalist in Northern Ireland wrote (584 days ago):
Ulster Republican. So hold on here. If loyalist attacks (mostly actually retaliatory) on nationalists stopped. Then why were hundreds killed in 30 years? Who said republicans lifted people off the streets. Which they certainly did on many occasions before the well known 'Shankill butchers' were doing it. We all know republicans liked to target off duty/part time policemen and soldiers. Or people out enjoying a night out or shopping. Republicans are cowards who cannot even admit facts. Your comment only proves that!
BIG ERNEST in EAST ANTRIM wrote (584 days ago):
finally i have stopped laughing at the republican/nationalist posters comments , dont even know where to start lol. the pup are no different from sf/pira , i challenge anyone to state they are different and i will shoot their comments down very quickly , for every murder or criminal act i will post one from sf/pira . finally can we not see what brian ervine does before judging ? after all most catholic voters where sucked in by sf over paul quinn and robert mccartney for starters , as for dawn purvis , dawn take a good look at stormont the next time you are their as it will be very interesting to see how well you poll next time in east belfast given you stole that seat when you left the pup . PS, can those from the nationalist/republican background please comment on the disappeared or the many other republican stories on u.tv or are you all plain and simple bigots ?
Ulster Republican in Co. Antrim wrote (585 days ago):
Ulster loyalist, why dont you actually learn something before you start talking, the only time the IRA ever targetted civilians was in retaliation to loyalist murders and that was stopped almost immediately. Look at the facts. And republicans are cowards? Republicans never lifted a random protestant and tortured them to death because of their religion. Typical loyalist propaganda. And your claim that republicans murdered more civilians than loyalists is just rediculous. Heres the statistics for everyone to see: Total killed by republicans- over 2000 Total civilians killed by Republicans- 680-700 Total killed by loyalists- 1000-1100 Total civilians killed by Loyalists- 900-1000
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